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3.12.2003
Apple dammit - can't you see... Safari needs ContentEditable Permanent link to this post with (0 comments )
Dan Gillmor: Monopoly's Semi-Helpless Helpers - a rant about why so few people are making windows only versions - started by a disappointment over Oddpost's brilliant webmail tool that is windows/ie only.

OddPost - just like a lot of other web based products - is windows/ie only because of the contentEditable feature in Internet Explorer. It's a property enabling developers in a very simple manner to make almost anything on a webpage rich text editable. This is why so many Content Management Systems is windows/ie only or only offers simple editing on other platforms - I guess anybody who have seen a CMS demoed heard a sales man saying: "Look - it's just like using Word"; kudos to Microsoft for making that feature available - not to any cms vendor.

I'm suffering on this problem with my umbraco product which is a Content Management Platform. I use contentEditable heavily and I've tried and tried to integrate dhtml and java editors (both open source and commercial OEM products) to offer support for Mac/*nix platforms. But when everything comes up, I've concluded that it's not enough for me that it works - I want a good and stable user-experience and I'm sorry to conclude that no java/dhtml editors have come up to this.

So what's next? Well, *nix support in umbraco is pretty much down the drain for now, but I still believe in Mac. Their products get better and better, and I really hope that their user base will grow - they deserve it. But then there's still this missing contentEditable-feature. I don't think it ever will come in Internet Explorer for Mac - it's complicated and an overwhelming benefit for Windows to be the only OS supporting this feature. So I think it's a must have for Safari - Apple's own browser - to get contentEditable or a similar feature. Until that happens I'm researching in building a custom app for Mac using the brilliant developer tools offered by os x. All critical function calls in umbraco are available through XML-RPC or SOAP anyway, so by combining the umbraco-web services with some custom Mac-glue, I might be able to offer the user-experience I want...

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